A meal vs flour question please...

barbara-in-va

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I want to make Dorie Greenspan's Hazelnut, Ginger and Olive Oil Cake. The recipe (which I could not find on the internet anywhere) calls for 2C of hazelnut flour. (and 1/3 c + 1T AP flour) I can find almond flour separate from almond meal but the hazelnut that I found is Bob's Red Mill finely ground hazelnut meal/flour. It is much more coarse than the almond flour. I would actually call is a meal vs a flour. Do you think I can use it in the recipe? Should I put it in my food processor and see if I can make it a finer texture? Should I skip the hazelnuts and use the almond flour I have instead? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!http://www.bobsredmill.com/hazelnut-flour-meal.html

 
Drat, Barb...I know I read about this recently, but I had Dorie, Rose & Alice's newest

books out from the library all at the same time, so now I have no idea which was which. "One" of them was talking about how they've changed their mind about peeling hazelnuts first...that they think the peel adds more flavor. All of them were using hazelnut flour in recipes.

I found a video from The Guardian for a hazelnut "meal" (simple ground up nuts) olive oil cake. It works fine and sounds similar to your cake.

The biggest discrepancy I'm finding is whether the nut oil is removed first. Some articles seem to imply the meal is simply the nut ground up, while the flour has the oil removed and is ground finer.

Years ago you could only find almond or hazelnut meal in the refrigerated sections and were told to store it carefully as the oils can go rancid. Now I see almond flours on the regular grocery shelves, so I have to wonder if they are removing the oils and selling it separately.

Long discourse with unfortunately no clear answer for you.

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2011/oct/17/hazelnut-vanilla-olive-oil-cake-butternut-sorbet

 
Almond flour and meal are the same thing. You'd expect it to be a fine white flour like AP

but it isn't. I've never seen a separate almond flour?! I suspect it may be the same with any nut flour. You have oils in nuts so it's not going to be dry and fine unless it's really processed out

 
From Wikipedia >>

Almond meal, almond flour or ground almond is made from ground sweet almonds. Almond flour is usually made with blanched almonds (no skin), whereas almond meal can be made both with whole or blanched almonds. The consistency is more like corn meal than wheat flour.

 
Thank you all so much!!! I need to make this tomorrow night after I get home

from work to bring to work on Tuesday.

Yes, Karen that is the recipe! You are a good detective!

I think the Bob's almond meal/flour that I purchased is much finer grain than the hazelnut meal/flour. So it will be an Almond, Ginger and Olive Oil cake this time around! I had a feeling that oils needed to be removed in order to make flour because if I just put nuts into the food processor they would yield more like an butter/paste product not flour.

I picked +15 lbs of black raspberries today so I will serve the cake with some black raspberry coulis and a bowl of fresh berries on the side. I have a lot of mint too so I might flavor the coulis with a little mint.

Thank you all again, I really appreciate your thoughts!

 
Re-reading the recipe this morning I may change my mind and go ahead and use

the hazelnut meal/flour that I have. There is a line in the instructions that makes me think the coarse texture is okay: "batter will be thickish and pleasantly bumpy from the hazelnut flour..."

 
In an effort to allay any fears--I've frequently made ErininNY's Raspberry Hazelnut Torte and

that recipe calls for hazelnut flour, but I've ALWAYS used Bob's Red Mill Finely Ground Hazelnut Meal/Flour, and it has come out absolutely delicious.

Raspberry Hazelnut Tart
By MARTHA ROSE SHULMAN

TOTAL TIME 1 hour 15 minutes, plus 24 to 48 hours’ chilling .

For the pâte sablée:
290 grams all-purpose flour (about 2 1/3 cups), plus more for dusting
35 grams hazelnut flour (about 1/3 rounded cup)
110 grams confectioners’ sugar (about 1 cup)
175 grams French-style 82 percent fat butter, such as Plugrà (6 ounces), plus more for greasing pan, at room temperature
3 grams fine sea salt (about rounded 1/2 teaspoon)
3 grams vanilla extract (about 1/2 teaspoon)
80 grams egg yolk (about 5 yolks)

For the tart:
30 grams whole hazelnuts, toasted and skinned (about 1/4 cup)
70 grams hazelnut flour (about 3/4 cup)
70 grams confectioners’ sugar (about 3/4 cup)
2 grams cornstarch (about 3/4 teaspoon)
2 grams cake flour (about 1 teaspoon)
70 grams French-style 82 percent fat butter, such as Plugrà (2 1/2 ounces), at room temperature
Pinch of sea salt
2 grams vanilla extract or paste (about 1/2 teaspoon)
1 egg, beaten
12 grams dark rum (about 1 tablespoon), optional
150 grams good quality raspberry jam (about 1/2 cup)
250 grams raspberries (9 ounces or about 2 cups)
Powdered sugar, for dusting

Preparation
1.Make the pâte sablée: Sift flour, 35 grams hazelnut flour and 110 grams confectioners’ sugar into separate bowls. Place 175 grams butter, 3 grams salt and sifted all-purpose flour in the bowl of a stand mixer fitted with the paddle attachment. Mix on low speed until flour and butter just come together. Add sifted hazelnut flour and confectioners’ sugar and mix on low until ingredients are just incorporated. Add vanilla extract and egg yolks and mix on medium just until ingredients come together. Scrape dough out of bowl and press into a 1/2-inch-thick rectangular block. Wrap airtight in plastic wrap and refrigerate overnight.
2.Unwrap dough and cut into two equal pieces. Wrap one piece and refrigerate or freeze for use in another tart.
3.Butter a 9-inch metal tart pan with a removable bottom very lightly and evenly. (If you can see the butter you have used too much.) Place parchment paper or a Silpat on a work surface and dust lightly with flour. Tap on the dough with a rolling pin to make it pliable. Roll dough out gently to about 1/4-inch thickness, frequently rotating it a quarter turn clockwise. Work quickly so dough doesn’t warm up and become sticky.
4.Cut a circle that is 1 1/2 inches larger in diameter than tart pan. (An easy way to do this is to use a larger pan or ring as a guide; set it on top of the dough and cut around it.) Very lightly dust dough with flour; use a pastry brush to remove any excess flour. Wrap dough loosely around rolling pin to lift it up from work surface, then immediately unroll it onto tart pan. Gently guide dough down the sides of the pan, making sure that dough leaves no gap between the bottom edge of the sides of the pan and the bottom. Using a paring knife, trim away excess dough hanging over edges. Refrigerate tart shell, uncovered, for at least 1 hour and preferably overnight.
5.Assemble the tart: Heat oven to 325 degrees. Place hazelnuts on a sheet pan lined with parchment and roast for 15 minutes. Remove from oven, cool for 15 minutes and place in a bag. Seal bag and gently roll over nuts with a rolling pin, just to crush them into halves. Set aside.
6.Sift together 70 grams hazelnut flour, 70 grams confectioners’ sugar, the cornstarch and the cake flour.
7.Place 70 grams butter, pinch of salt and the vanilla in the bowl of a stand mixer fitted with the paddle attachment and mix at medium speed for 1 minute. Turn off machine, scrape down sides of bowl and add hazelnut flour mixture. Mix at medium speed for 1 minute. Gradually add egg and mix at medium speed until incorporated, no more than 2 minutes. Add rum, if using, and mix until incorporated. 8.Remove tart shell from refrigerator. With a fork, poke holes in the dough, 1 inch apart. Spoon or pipe hazelnut cream into bottom of shell. Using a small offset spatula, spread in a smooth, even layer.
9.Bake tart for 40 minutes OR until cream and crust are golden brown and the tip of a paring knife comes out clean when inserted. Remove from oven and cool on a wire rack for 30 minutes.
10.Remove tart from the ring and, with a small offset spatula, spread raspberry jam over surface in an even layer. (If jam is too stiff to spread easily, place it in a small saucepan and warm it slightly first on top of the stove.) Arrange fresh raspberries on jam. Just before serving, distribute roasted hazelnuts among the raspberries and dust with powdered sugar. The tart is best when eaten the day it is made, but can be refrigerated for a day.

YIELD One 9-inch tart, plus dough for an additional tart shell

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