Oh boy...what to believe/do/think about AMYLAZE. I was watching

marilynfl

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several videos of CHEFSTEPS (I do like those guys) making various breads: brioche, sliders, rolls, etc.

In each of them, they add a small portion of amylaze as in ingredient. I had no clue what that was, so I went to Wiki.

Oh boy.

Here are some excerpts (full article is at the link). If text is in bold, that's a clue that I'm sitting here shaking my head.

Flour additive

Amylases are used in breadmaking and to break down complex sugars, such as starch (found in flour), into simple sugars. Yeast then feeds on these simple sugars and converts it into the waste products of alcohol and CO2. This imparts flavour and causes the bread to rise. While amylases are found naturally in yeast cells, it takes time for the yeast to produce enough of these enzymes to break down significant quantities of starch in the bread. This is the reason for long fermented doughs such as sour dough. Modern breadmaking techniques have included amylases (often in the form of malted barley) into bread improver, thereby making the process faster and more practical for commercial use.(6)

Alpha amylase is often listed as an ingredient on commercially package milled flour. Bakers with long exposure to amylase-enriched flour are at risk of developing dermatitis(7) or asthma.(smileys/bigeyes.gif

Molecular biology

When used as a food additive, amylase has E number E1100, and may be derived from swine pancreas or mould mushroom.

Bacilliary amylase is also used in clothing and dishwasher detergents to dissolve starches from fabrics and dishes.

Factory workers who work with amylase for any of the above uses are at increased risk of occupational asthma. Five to nine percent of bakers have a positive skin test, and a fourth to a third of bakers with breathing problems are hypersensitive to amylase.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amylase#Flour_additive

 
Not bothered even slightly....

...it's just an enzyme that as they explained, break down molecules of starch. Pretty much like your saliva does.

A lot of drugs and compounds tremendously useful for us are produced from bovine pancreas, from yeast, fungus, bacteria, no need to get worried about it.

Insulin is now for the most part produced by bacteria - through genetic engineering, oh my! - , which decades ago made people freak out. Now no one talks about it because it's clear it is absolutely safe.

One day when I have time I should write a document on one of the greatest fallacies of our times, the one that insists on associating natural with good, and artificial with bad. If only things were so simple to divide.... Mushrooms, folks, mushrooms have a super high level of mutagenic compounds, research done decades ago by Dr. Bruce Ames. Are we dropping dead and developing tumors because of it? Not really... but let's get rid of monosodium glutamate because IT'S A CHEMICAL SUBSTANCE smileys/smile.gif

(stepping down of my soap box, these days apparently I am climbing there often... smileys/wink.gif

 
No bother to me--this is one of the reasons I intensely dislike most commerical bread. . .

Packaged bread from a grocery store, let's say 95% of the ones I have tasted, tasted dry and sawdusty. The ONLY way I can get me bread at home to taste dry and sawdusty is to get it to rise too fast by adding sugar, making sure all the ingredients are warm and adding too much yeast; this makes my bread taste like commercial bread, dry and sawdusty.

As adding amylase increases the sugar available to the yeast so that they don't have to work so hard or so long, well, that is just one reason to avoid it's addition.

Why add additives to make the yeast act faster and then need to add dough conditioners and preservatives to keep the bread fresh, when I can make bread correctly and it tastes so much better and keeps great?

 
Just to clarify my point here....

...there is no doubt that baking bread from scratch without any additives is better. I am not talking about quality of a product. I am talking about being disgusted by an enzyme purified from bovine pancreas.

Anyone who can bake great bread without resorting to added amylases, or preservatives, more power to them - but not everyone has
1. the time
2. the resources
3. the ability
4. the desire
5. any combination of the above
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to make bread at home. And commercial bakers have been trying to find ways to make their bread better, and improve yes, their profit. They do that for a living. Amylases and preservatives are part of this nasty equation.

All of a sudden people are shocked and appalled because they realize that chemicals and preservatives are part of the food production for large scale consumption. This has been a criticism since the 60's. But there has to be a balance between what is commercially feasible and what is a gold standard. . That is a fact, and if you can completely avoid that in your life, you are part of a minority that is lucky and living a reality that is not that of 99% of people.

 
so...if I'm making small batches at home, ix-nay this?

Odd, because these were small batch recipes. I didn't think "ChefSteps" was the voice behind a bakery, but don't know for sure.

 
Definitely skip it and it won't hurt....

.... Chefsteps is a nice site, but they are geared towards "molecular gastronomy" and will often perk up their recipes with a foam, a gel, a chemical. Sous-vide is big with them too, I ve been checking their recipes to use as guidelines for timing and temperature, but I have no patience to watch videos online. I am happy with the recipe only

 
If only our grad students would agree with you.....

Unfortunately, it's not the case.

It is tiring and frustrating sometimes. (sorry, venting)

 
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