QW! how do you cook dressing outside of the bird.?

rvb

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despite the fact that i'm still alive, i'm gonna finally heed warnings and cook my stuffing in the oven separate from the bird.

i'll start with a cup each of chopped carrots and celery and sautee in olive oil/butter til they start to soften then add 2 cups chopped chestnuts (mostly cooked from being broiled in order to peel) and heat through. then add 3/4 cup each of currants and chopped apricots.

after this i'll add abouut 2 cups of breadcrumbs. i figured there'd be plenty juices to bind the crumbs. if not, i'll punt. hopefully, i might hafta add some of my blackberry or black raspberry vinegar...

so whatta i do from here? i'm stuck at 350 becuz of the bird and taters

thanks ahead.

 
I bake mine in the oven, covered with foil. if there is a spare piece of

turkey skin or fat, I'll put that on top to give it extra flavor.

have a wonderful T'day smileys/smile.gif

 
great. thanks. being fatless (short of liposuction), i might bard it with...

sliced prosciutto.

how long do you cook it and do you pull the foil back at the end to crisp up?

btw, i've been procrastinating bigtime with the re to your email. with some luck, i'll finish it.

 
I kinda wing it, depending on how much I'm baking. I would think about an

hour should do it, last 10 -15 min uncovered. the prosciut sounds like a nice addition.

don't worry about the email, just take care of yourself and feel better smileys/smile.gif

HUGS

 
well, so they say. it ensures a fully cooked stuffing and the turk cooks faster

and more evenly. also, you don't have to go digging in the cavity to get all the stuffing out.

having said that.... isn't it amazing that we've all had wonderful stuffings cooked inside the bird for most of our lives? I'm cooking outside the bird just cause it's easier.

 
that's a great idea Mistral, I thought about cutting off the wings and putting

them on top. I wasn't going to cook this year so I didn't have anything planned ahead. we are getting hammered by, yet another, storm so I'm scrambling to get a reasonable T'day dinner on the table this evening and keeping fingers crossed that the wind doesn't take down the electricity.

so far, so good smileys/smile.gif

 
Only thing with removing the wings is the turkey tends be less stable...

I once bought a utility turkey with a missing wing and it listed kind of sadly. Although, if you're using a rack or resting it on a bed of veggies that should take care of the problem.

Boy, you've been having a lot of bad weather lately. Are you located in a coastal state?

I'll keep my fingers crossed so your electricity stays up ;o)

Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours!

 
Ooooh, I love that idea - adding a fatty piece of turkey to cook on top of the dressing!

Either the extra piece of skin, or the thighs, like Mistral. Never thought of that, and it sounds so obvious!

Gotta tell my hubby that - he's the Thanksgiving day chef. (I just gotta make the cranberry sauce, with the recipe straight off of the bag!)

Thanks for the great tip!

 
thanks Ruth, thank goodness I left the wings and I'm using the neck instead. can't have 2 unstable

birds in the kitchen this afternoon '-))

the turk is bagged and baking, cranberry sauce made, stuffing ready to assemble and go into oven in awhile. annnd, the winds have calmed a bit so we don't have to worry about the electric, whew!

I have some fresh green beans and mushrooms and I'll just saute them and add some herbs and sour cream. just very simple and easy.

yes, I'm in Newport Oregon, former home of Keiko, and looking out at the pacific as I type. we've just been hammered by the "pineapple express" the last few weeks. the storms have been fierce and wild. I'm just awed by it all. 30 feet of a cliff was taken down in 6 hrs a couple of weeks ago, how incredible is that!

as much as I'm smitten and wonder struck by the rugged beauty here, we could all use a few days of calm smileys/smile.gif

 
For the first time, I cooked my turkey unstuffed...

and was very pleased with the results. The turkey was perfect. I roasted it at 375 until it was done. Last night, I browned the sausage and veggies for the Cornbread Stuffing from Charlie, and refrigerated it. I also sauteed the veggies for the traditional stuffing, and refrigerated that also. I dried my bread cubes overnight, and put my stuffing together right before I put it in the oven. I covered them with foil, and popped them in the oven with the turkey. After I took the turkey out, I took the foil off the stuffing to brown it a bit. They were fantastic tasting, nice and moist, not gummy. I really liked this method. It was the first time I was not worried about the turkey being underdone, and it was extremely moist. My dinner was the best ever, with the least stress on Tday.

 
Cyn, can you give me your instructions for Gourmet's unstuffed roast turkey?...

Many thanks...I can't find it in any of our posts, and I am planning to roast a turkey for Christmas. I would like to serve a good roast turkey, because some of my prior attempts have been so-so.

 
Charlie posted this at 4634. I just copied and reposted for ya.

SIMPLE ROAST TURKEY WITH RICH TURKEY GRAVY

Serving Size : 12

1 16-pound turkey -- at room temperature 1 hour, feathers and quills removed with tweezers or needlenose pliers, and neck and giblets removed and reserved for another use if desired
1 tablespoon salt
1 3/4 teaspoons black pepper
2 cups water
7 cups TURKEY STOCK -- (7 to smileys/bigeyes.gif (See Recipe)
1 stick unsalted butter -- (1/2 cup)
3/4 cup all-purpose flour
1 1/2 tablespoons cider vinegar -- (1 1/2 to 2)

Special equipment: 2 small metal
skewers,kitchen string; a 17- by 14-inch
flameproof roasting pan with a flat rack;
an instant-read thermometer; a 2-qt glass
measuring cup




Make turkey:
Put oven rack in lowest position and preheat oven to 450°F. Rinse turkey inside and out, then pat dry. Sprinkle turkey cavities and skin with salt and pepper. Fold neck skin under body and secure with metal skewers, then tie drumsticks together with kitchen string and tuck wings under body.

Put turkey on rack in roasting pan. Add 1 cup water to pan and roast without basting, rotating pan halfway through roasting, until thermometer inserted into fleshy part of thighs (test both thighs; do not touch bones) registers 170°F, 2 1/4 to 2 3/4 hours.

Carefully tilt turkey so any juices from inside large cavity run into roasting pan, then transfer turkey to a platter, reserving juices in roasting pan. Let turkey stand, uncovered, 30 minutes (temperature of thigh meat will rise to 180°F).

Make gravy while turkey stands:
Pour pan juices through a fine-mesh sieve into measuring cup (do not clean roasting pan), then skim off and discard fat. (If using a fat separator, pour pan juices through sieve into separator and let stand until fat rises to top, 1 to 2 minutes. Carefully pour pan juices from separator into measure, discarding fat.)

Straddle roasting pan across 2 burners, then add remaining cup water and deglaze roasting pan by boiling over high heat, stirring and scraping up brown bits, 1 minute. Pour through sieve into measuring cup containing pan juices. Add enough turkey stock to pan juices to bring total to 8 cups (if stock is congealed, heat to liquefy).

Melt butter in a 4-quart heavy pot and stir in flour. Cook roux over moderate heat, whisking, 5 minutes. Add stock mixture in a stream, whisking constantly to prevent lumps, then bring to a boil, whisking occasionally. Stir in any turkey juices accumulated on platter and simmer 5 minutes. Season gravy with salt and pepper, then stir in cider vinegar (to taste).

Source:
"Gourmet,November 2006"


NOTES : This is the ultimate turkey lover's turkey—no bells and whistles, just a succulent bird with crispy skin and plenty of delicious gravy. It's also great for first-timers, since there's no fussing with brines or glazes and no stuffing the cavity. Plus, it's done in under 4 hours.

TURKEY STOCK

6 pounds turkey parts -- such as wings, drumsticks, and thighs
3 medium yellow onions -- left unpeeled, trimmed and halved
3 celery ribs -- cut into 2-inch lengths
3 carrots -- quartered
5 quarts cold water
6 fresh parsley stems -- (without leaves)
1 bay leaf -- Turkish, or 1/2 California bay leaf
10 black peppercorns
1 1/2 teaspoons salt

Special equipment: a 17- by 14-inch
flameproof roasting pan


If using turkey wings, halve at joints with a cleaver or large knife, then crack wing bones in several places with back of cleaver or knife. (Do not crack bones if using other parts.) Pat turkey dry.

Put oven rack in lowest position of oven and preheat oven to 500°F. Roast turkey parts, skin sides down, in dry roasting pan, turning over once, until browned well, about 45 minutes. Transfer to an 8- to 10-quart stockpot with tongs, reserving fat in roasting pan.

Add onions (cut sides down), celery, and carrots to fat in pan and roast, stirring halfway through roasting, until golden, about 20 minutes total. Add vegetables to turkey in stockpot.

Straddle pan across 2 burners, then add 2 cups water and deglaze by boiling, stirring and scraping up brown bits, 1 minute. Add deglazing liquid to turkey and vegetables in stockpot, then add parsley, bay leaf, peppercorns, salt, and remaining 4 1/2 quarts water. Reduce heat and gently simmer, partially covered, 3 hours.

Pour stock through a large fine-mesh sieve into a large bowl, discarding solids. Measure stock: If there is more than 13 cups, boil in cleaned pot until reduced to 13 cups. If there is less, add enough water to bring total to 13 cups. If using immediately, let stand until fat rises to top, 1 to 2 minutes, then skim off and discard fat. If not, cool completely, uncovered, then chill, covered, before skimming fat (it will be easier to remove when cool or cold).

Source:
"Gourmet,November 2006"
Yield:
"13 cups"

NOTES : Stock can be chilled in an airtight container 1 week or frozen 3 months. .

Roasting the turkey and vegetables before simmering them results in a dark stock that takes you more than halfway to a rich brown gravy. The recipe yields enough for the gravy and then some, but you'll be happy to have the extra when it comes time to make soup.

 
Wow! It sounds like you live in a gorgeous place!

But with those storms - kind of seems like it's "a terrible beauty". My sis lives in Vancouver B.C. so I'd been keeping an eye on that storm too - it's really wreaked some havoc near her place.

I sure hope things calm down for you soon!

 
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