RECIPE: REC: I made my first Gumbo!

RECIPE:

colleenmomof2

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I started the flour and bacon fat (!) roux in the microwave for more than several minutes then moved to stove to get to copper brown. My final recipe was not at all perfect - not enough veggies, overcooked meats, and my Andouille was meh (I knew this before using sausage from freezer I'd used before) - but really wonderful. So fun!!! Will make better again and post. Thank you to everyone here who shared their favorite gumbos! Colleenhttps://www.nola.com/entertainment_life/eat-drink/article_75942cdc-2480-5112-b53c-38956783cce0.html

 
Congrats! I remember Nan in Alaska telling us how a shipmate said her her roux wasn't

dark enough (as I recall, she was the cook on a fishing? boat and he was from The South). She had him stand next to her and when she thought she was done cooking the roux, he told her to keep going. And keep going. And keep going. It ended up being the color of a DARK copper penny, not the pretty copper color we associate with clean pennies. She said it made a difference.

I agree. I use the gumbo recipe from The New Orleans Cookbook and my first attempt was very good, even though I left out the okra...which is essentially leaving out one of the main ingredients. However, I'd never had okra and every time I looked it up, the adjective SLIMY was in there somewhere. Now that I know better, I'll add it this time.

The book recommends cooking the roux until it is the color of a hazelnut.

Did you find filé powder?

 
FRC: I made my first collard greens!

I've cooked with collards - love the collard quiche posted here. Also have enjoyed collards in restaurants and hated the collards in a can. The collards I made were wonderful but the recipe I used was nothing special - but I used Caren's (wigs) suggestion to do them in the Instant Pot. I started with a ham hock, chopped onion and garlic, 4 cups of Trader Joe's low sodium vegetable boxed stock and 2 cups of water for 35 minutes on Manual to get the Smoky Pork Stock Marilyn referenced when she made Edna Lewis's Spicy Collards. Let Natural Release, opened, removed hock, poured stock out, put ham hock and 2 cups of stock back into the pot, added chopped collards, veggies, spices, some pork crisps from making lard, and topped it off with an extra cup of hock stock, stirring to wet greens. Then processed for another 35 min on Manual leaving to Natural Release maybe an hour after finished. Soooooo good! Colleen
Edna Lewis's Spicy Collard Greens at
https://www.foodandwine.com/recipes/spicy-collard-greens

https://www.foodandwine.com/recipes/smoky-pork-stock

 
Penzy has Gumbo File. Not sure it made that much difference smileys/frown.gif

So what I did was put a little into the gumbo - about 1 tsp in a big batch - because so many recipes say it makes gumbo stringy when reheated but so many say to add it! Then I stirred in about 1/2 tsp of file each for the number of bowls reheated, after it was hot but before ladling into bowls. Will use when I make again because I have it but wasn't all that impressed between with and without. I used (love!) Margaret Holmes canned okra, corn and tomatoes mixture which I find at Walmart. Colleen

 
Give this recipe a try. I do cook the roux to a darker color than suggested here.

The roux in a gumbo is for flavor not thickening as the long cooking takes away the thickening power.

Half-Hour Chicken Gumbo
o 3 tablespoons vegetable oil, such as safflower
o 1/3 cup all-purpose flour
o 2 red bell peppers (ribs and seeds removed), chopped
o 1 medium onion, chopped
o 4 garlic cloves, chopped
o 1 teaspoon dried oregano
o Coarse salt and ground pepper
o 1 can diced tomatoes—14oz. or even a 28 oz.
o 1 package (10 ounces) frozen, cut okra
o 8 ounces smoked (precooked) andouille sausage, halved lengthwise and sliced 1 inch thick. You can use kielbasa or smoked sausage
o Leftover rotisserie chicken/roast chicken or enough chicken to make it a meal.
o Store-bought or homemade cornbread, for serving (optional)



1. In a 5-quart Dutch oven or heavy-bottomed pot, heat oil over medium. Add flour, and cook, whisking constantly, until pale golden, 5 to 7 minutes. I cook until a fairly deep mahogany, but not burnt!! Stir in bell peppers, onion, garlic, and oregano; season with salt and pepper. Cook, stirring occasionally, until vegetables are crisp-tender, 10 to 12 minutes.
2. Add 4 cups water; I use good chicken stock. stir in okra and sausage. Bring to a boil. Stir in shredded chicken, and heat 15 minutes or so.
3. Serve over rice.
4. Season with salt and pepper; if desired, serve with cornbread.

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REC: Forgot to add that I'm going to make the Collard Greens Melt Sandwich with

some of the collards. Need to drain and then saute them to dry a bit. Colleen

The Bon Appetit Collard Green Melt - slow-cooked collards, swiss cheese, pickled cherry pepper dressing, cole slaw, on rye bread
Collards
4 tablespoons unsalted butter
6 garlic cloves, finely chopped
½ cup red wine vinegar
¼ cup sugar
2 teaspoons Creole seasoning (such as Zatarain’s)
1 teaspoon kosher salt
1 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
1 teaspoon crushed red pepper flakes
10 cups (packed) torn collard green leaves (from about 4 bunches)
Slaw
¼ head of green cabbage, thinly sliced
¼ small white or yellow onion, thinly sliced
1/third cup mayonnaise
1 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
1 tablespoon (or more) distilled white vinegar
Kosher salt
Russian Dressing
½ cup mayonnaise
¼ cup chopped pickled hot cherry peppers
1 teaspoon hot sauce
1 teaspoon ketchup
1/eighth teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
Assembly
12 thin slices caraway rye or whole wheat bread
8 thick-cut slices deli-style Swiss cheese

RECIPE PREPARATION
Collards
Melt butter in a large saucepan over medium heat. Cook garlic, stirring, until fragrant, about 1 minute. Add vinegar, sugar, Creole seasoning, salt, black pepper, red pepper flakes, and ¼ cup water. Bring to a simmer and cook, stirring occasionally, until liquid is slightly reduced, about 10 minutes. Add collards, tossing in liquid to wilt. Cover pan, reduce heat to low, and continue to cook, stirring occasionally, until collards are dark green and very soft, 2½–3 hours. There should be very little liquid left—just enough to coat greens. If there is too much, cook uncovered until you have the right amount.
Do Ahead: Collards can be made 3 days ahead. Let cool; cover and chill.
Slaw
Toss cabbage, onion, mayonnaise, pepper, and 1 Tbsp. vinegar in a medium bowl to combine. Cover and chill at least 1 hour.
Season with salt and more vinegar if needed just before using.
Do Ahead: Slaw can be made 1 day ahead. Keep chilled.
Russian Dressing
Mix mayonnaise, cherry peppers, hot sauce, ketchup, and pepper in a small bowl to combine.
Do Ahead: Dressing can be made 1 day ahead. Cover and chill.
Sandwich Assembly
Heat broiler (rack should be in highest position). Place 8 slices of bread on a rimmed baking sheet and toast, checking every 30 seconds, until golden brown, 1–2 minutes. Turn and toast second side until golden brown, 1–2 minutes. Top each toast with a slice of cheese and broil until melted and starting to brown, 1–2 minutes. Transfer to a work surface.
Place remaining 4 slices of bread on same baking sheet and toast, checking every 30 seconds, until golden brown, 1–2 minutes. Turn and toast second side until golden brown, 1–2 minutes. Transfer to a plate.
If collard greens are cold, reheat in a large skillet over medium until hot, about 5 minutes.
Divide 2 cups slaw among 4 cheesy toasts. Top with remaining 4 cheesy toasts. Using a slotted spoon (or you’ll end up with a soggy sammy), divide collard greens among cheesy toasts. Generously spread one side of plain toasts with dressing and place dressing side down on collard greens to close sandwiches. Cut sandwiches in half diagonally and serve with lots of napkins.

The Food Network Version - directly from restaurant? - is more heavily spiced
https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/the-collard-green-melt-5524362
Collard Greens:
1 stick unsalted butter
1/2 cup minced fresh garlic
1 cup sugar
1 cup red wine vinegar
1 cup rice wine vinegar
2 tablespoons Korean red pepper powder
2 tablespoons Creole seasoning, preferably Zatarain's
1 tablespoon freshly ground black pepper
1 tablespoon kosher salt, preferably Diamond Crystal
2 1/2 to 3 gallons de-stemmed, washed and chopped collard greens
Coleslaw:
2 packed quarts thinly sliced green cabbage
3/4 cup mayonnaise, preferably Duke's
1/4 cup shaved white onion
2 tablespoons white vinegar
1 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
Kosher salt, preferably Diamond Crystal
Pickled Cherry Pepper Russian Dressing:
2 cups mayonnaise, preferably Duke's
1 cup roughly chopped hot pickled cherry peppers
1 tablespoon ketchup, preferably Heinz
2 teaspoons Korean red pepper powder
1 teaspoon hot sauce, preferably Crystal
1/2 teaspoon smoked paprika
1/2 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
Kosher salt, preferably Diamond Crystal
Sandwich:
Unsalted butter, at room temperature, for the toast
3 thin slices seeded rye bread
2 thick-cut slices Swiss cheese
For the collard greens: Melt the butter in a large, heavy-bottomed pot over medium heat. Add the minced garlic and cook until fragrant and cooked through. Add the sugar, red wine vinegar, rice wine vinegar, red pepper powder, Creole seasoning, black pepper, salt and 1 cup water and cook until the flavors to meld and develop, about 10 minutes. Add the collard greens in batches if necessary, waiting a few minutes for the collard greens to begin to break down in the pot likker (the liquid in the pot) before adding the rest. Allow to cook over low to medium heat until you achieve the desired texture and the greens have an agreeable amount of salt, spice and acid, 2 to 3 hours. Let the collards cool in their pot likker and reserve until ready to prepare your sandwich. (This can be done a day or more ahead of time.)
For the coleslaw: Add the cabbage, mayonnaise, onion, vinegar, pepper and some salt to a large mixing bowl. Wearing gloves, mix with your hands, massaging the cabbage to break it down in the mayonnaise. (It should yield less than a quarter of the original volume when it's all said and done.) Taste to make sure you have enough salt and vinegar. Reserve in the refrigerator, as it tastes best on the sandwich as a cold component. (This can be done up to a day ahead of time.)
For the pickled cherry pepper Russian dressing: Mix up the mayonnaise, cherry peppers, ketchup, red pepper powder, hot sauce, paprika, black pepper and some salt in a bowl.
For the sandwich: Brush some butter on both sides of each slice of rye bread and toast on both sides on a nonstick griddle or in a large nonstick saute pan. On two slices of bread, place a slice of Swiss cheese and allow to melt fully (covering the pan or putting a dome over the bread on the flattop will facilitate the melting process).
Meanwhile, heat some greens in a saute pan. Place a handful of coleslaw on a cheesy slice of rye bread. Place the other cheesy slice of rye on top of that. Spoon your collard greens on top of that slice, being careful not to bring too much of the pot likker with them as this will make for a soggy end product. Dress the third slice of rye with a liberal slather of the Russian dressing and place it face-down on top of the collards. Cut it in half and serve.

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Ended up using the rest of our greens for Collard Greens Quiche

Froze 2 pieces for 3/14 Pi Day. I'll need to make the sandwich with my next batch of greens. Colleen

Recipe from Marianne
Collard Greens Quiche
This recipe, from Family Circle in 1985, credits the recipe to Dean Irby, a theatrical director and lecturer at Hunter College in New York City.
1 unbaked 9-inch homemade pie shell OR: 9-inch, store-bought frozen deep-dish pie shell
1 package (10 ounces) frozen chopped collard greens
1 medium-sized onion, chopped
1/2 cup chopped sweet green pepper
2 tablespoons butter or margarine
1/4 teaspoon leaf tarragon, crumbled
1 1/4 cups half-and-half
4 eggs
1/2 teaspoon salt
1/4 teaspoon pepper
4 ounces Swiss cheese, grated
1/4 teaspoon ground nutmeg
1. Preheat oven to hot (425)
2. Bake pie shell in preheated hot (425) oven for 5 minutes. Remove to wire rack. Lower oven temperature to moderate (350).
3. Cook collard greens following package directions. Drain well. Squeeze out excess liquid.
4. Saute onion and green pepper in butter in large skillet until tender. Remove from heat. Stir in collard greens and tarragon.
5. Combine half-and-half, eggs, salt and pepper in container of electric blender. Whirl until mixed.
6. Spread collard green mixture into bottom of pie shell. Sprinkle with cheese. Stir lightly to mix. Pour egg mixture over. Sprinkle with nutmeg.
7. Bake in preheated moderate oven (350) for 40 minutes or until mixture is set and quiche is lightly browned on top. Let stand 5 minutes before slicing.

Marianne's notes: Joe, use your neighbor's recipe to cook your collards (her recipe is the classic Southern way to cook them), then use them in the quiche in place of frozen ones.
I haven't made this recipe in years, but I remember that it was delicious, and I'm going to go buy a bunch of greens today and make it again.
BTW, did your neighbor sprinkle a little hot pepper vinegar on the greens before she ate them? This is a MUST with greens in the South!
Enjoy!
Marianne in LA (Lower Alabama)

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You mentioned using a Margaret Holmes canned okra and tomatoes. That brand also

has some canned collard greens that are quite good. Another brand is something Glory.

 
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