The things one knows and then finds out there are other ways...

richard-in-cincy

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I have been cooking Austrian food for years. Some of my calling cards are Servietten Knödeln (napkin dumpling-a dumpling formed in a log in a cloth napkin, boiled, and sliced to serve) Venison Roast, and braised red cabbage. I can cook these in my sleep with no recipe.

I've been watching the delightful PBS program "Great Chefs of Austria" on Acorn or Amazon, and just love this show. Although I am constantly amused at the translation voiceovers (done in, what? Is that a Piedmont or Tidewater Virginian accent???) speaking over the Austrian Chef's Austrian German. There are some notable mistakes in the translations sometimes, mostly leaving out ingredients the chef is reciting or omitting an instruction from the chef.

My Austrian cooking is mostly Styrian (Steirisch) and Viennese. So imagine my surprise when the chef from the Goldener Hirsch in Salzburg made my signature dishes in the "Salzburger Style."

My napkin dumpling is made up of either soft pretzels or french baguette (in lieu of a good Austrian Kaiser roll) and filled with mushrooms, emmentaler cheese, cream, chopped parsley, sauteed onions, chives, butter, and eggs, mixed with cubes of the bread. The Salzburg version starts out sauteeing onions in butter, then adding cream and a mix of butter beaten with egg yolks, then stirring in semolina and flour to make a thick batter. Then the toasted bread cubes are folded into this batter before rolling up in the napkin to boil. So very different.

For the braised red cabbage, I saute onions in butter, then add the shredded red cabbage, apples, fresh cranberries, pears, vanilla, orange marmalade, red wine, a touch of apple cider vinegar and the spices: cloves, cinnamon, juniper, bay, pepper, allspice, mace. Cover and simmer for an hour or so.

The Salzburger chef started by combining his red cabbage with red wine, vinegar, orange, lemon, and apple juice, sugar, caraway, juniper and then marinating overnight. When he began cooking the dish, the cabbage looked like it had already been cooked. He added the marinated cabbage to onions sauteed in butter with a little more red wine and apple juice, then simmered for a short time. Once again, such a different approach to this dish than what I've always known and the way I've made them for years.

For venison, I usually do the Styrian method which is pretty much making Bouef a la Mode with Venison. For the Venison, he sauteed a fillet in butter, then added it to a rich reduced venison stock to poach. For plating, he cut on the diagonal, covered it with some of the stock reduction, spooned over mushrooms sauteed in butter and reduced in cream, stock reduction, then hollandaise. This he "gratineed" with his blow torch on the plate, and then drizzled more of the stock reduction and served it with the red cabbage and a slice of the dumpling. A plate I've presented many times at my table, but made so completely different than I learned how to do it.

Has anyone else ran across a completely different approach to tried and true standards you've been making for years? It really was quite an eye opener for me to approach these familiar dishes from such a different method.

 
I want to know how? BTW

I glory in the difference between Tex Mex, New Mex, Ari Mex, Cali Mex, and New Mex.

I have some fabulous New Mex recipes.

We need to set up a meeting for June.

 
hmm...stuffed cabbage comes to mind. I have Ukrainian, Serbian, Polish and German

grandparents and have had it many different ways while living in Pittsburgh, a literal melting pot of ethnic cooks. Actually, here is a paraphrased conversation that I had with a coworker when I started at Westinghouse in PA back in 1976.

Let's clear up the interaction site first: I was hired UNDER MANDATE by the Good Old US of A federal government forcing companies such as Westinghouse to hire females for equal employment opportunity. You know, the other sex that was meant to stay home and raise the kids (direct quote said to me). I was the first female draftsman hired since World War II at this manufacturing facility. It was me and 146 male draftsmen and I was taking a job that should have gone to a man to provide for a wife and a family (direct quote to me). They also hired a female engineer to balance off 36 male engineers.

They were, however, under no constraint to pay me the same as my coworkers: "Marilyn, Michael has two kids to feed. I have to pay him more..."

Moving on...

back to stuffed cabbages which I learned to make from my mother who was taught this method from my father's Ukrainian mother. One day at work, a Polish coworker (obviously male) saw my lunch was stuffed cabbage (We called them "ha-loop-key" at home) and asked who had made them. I said me. He said "what's in them?"

Ah...I was being challenged with the old "stuffed cabbage" quiz.

Game on.

Me: Meat and cabbage (I can play dumb with the best of them)
Paul: What type of meat?
Me: Beef, pork, and veal
Paul: What else?
Me: Rice
Paul: Cooked or uncooked
Me: Uncooked
Paul: What else?
Me: Onions
Paul: Cooked or uncooked?
Me: Sautéed (that shut him up for a bit)
Paul: How do you wrap them?
Me: Steam the big leaves and trim off the thick stem.
Paul: Sauce?
Me: Large can of tomato juice (that got a rise out of him, continuing the age old debate of tomatoes versus tomato soup versus tomato puree versus tomato juice. Pick a side).
Paul: hmm
(I sensed a weakening and went in for the kill)
Me: Then you layer the pan with more cabbage leaves, line up the rolls, spoon sauerkraut over it all (sauerkraut: it's the Ukrainian Amino Acid) and add the juice. Cook until the sauce thickens, meat is tender and rice is cooked.

When he asked to taste one, it was game over.

 
I'll have to think of the best example

Curiously, akin to your "great chefs" program, my initial education on this was Great Chef's of the Southwest" years ago. I bought the cookbook after watching the series.

I'll PM you my email and phone number. I normally get off work at 1:30 on Fridays but could probably arrange noon if you would like to do great ethnic grocery shopping trip & lunch.

In Richardson, Texas Google: Sara Market & Pita Bakery (Sherman St.), DFW Chinatown (there is a list of restaurants/grocery), Afrah restaurant, Indo-Pak grocery (Main St or Beltline), India Bazaar. They are all within a mile or so of my office at Central Expy & Beltline. Let me know what you would be interested in.

If the weather doesn't change, prepare to roast and bring an ice chest. Sadly, this seems to be one of our "hit 90s to stay" in April years. It was 95 or 96 yesterday.

 
Also fun, Royal Sweets

An Indian sweets & candy & snacks store. Think 100 different versions of Indian Chex Mix and beautiful confections.

 
The Hungarian version I've had

has sausages tucked in between the rolls. And of course, bring on the sour cream.

But they are all basically made using the same techniques though, just different ingredients? The difference in the way I make red cabbage and dumplings is a total paradigm shift from the way the Salzburg guy made them to result in basically the same dishes at the end.

I've felt your pain on the inequity of pay and family bias. When asked why Mr. Z was making $5000/year than I was with the same qualifications, years of experience, and length of employment, I was told: Mr. Z has a family to take care of so he has to make more. To which I replied, we do the same job. We should receive the same pay. I was then scolded for talking about someone else's salary. I said, so it's ok for you to play unfair with the salaries and I'm supposed to be in the dark and that's OK? I promptly found a new job making more than Mr. Z and told them they could now let Mr. Z have all my pay since he was obviously so needy.

 
Cyn, it got better from there...

When I submitted my resignation, they tried to do the last minute "don't make us be fair" routine. They met "my salary demand to be equal".

I said but you are too late. My new job makes $5000 more dollars than Mr. Z.

They adjourned and came back. OK. We'll raise your salary $10K.

No, you don't understand. My new employer (notice I said my new employer) is giving me more than this salary. If you want to entice me, you need to come up with more money.

They were aghast . I took my expertise and I walked out the door.

This is the lesson I learned early on. When you don't like your salary. You walk.

 
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