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it kinda blows me away too Jean. one of my friends almost lost her two cats

to Sargent's flea and tick meds. it's amazing they survived. it seems that the company is aware of the problems with it and other animals have died very painfull deaths from it.

I'm going to have to figure out how to make my cat food. we have 6, all rescues, and our alpha elder can't tolerate food problems at his age. I did try a year ago and, unlike everyone else, my cats don't care for my cooking. maybe we need a dog to appreciate my culinary talents "-))

BTW, 2 of our dear friends have danes, big and beautiful. i'll ask her what they are doing now.

 
My vet recommends Nature's variety...my cats love it..it's for dogs too.

Raw meat with tons of veggies & fruits....it does wonders for skin allergies, etc. too

 
I give it to my cat and my H consumes it too. I understand there is a huge difference in quality

among pet brands. Mind telling me which brand your dog prefers?

I am curious about the food, as my arthritis is disappearing again. It seems to stay for about 5 years and drift way for 5-10. I'm wondering if I am eating the right dog food.

 
Well, I don't have trouble jumping into the car yet. But that's coming, I'm sure. It's good

to know that something is working for Guff.

I think I'll stress some more grains in my diet.

Thanks Ellie.

 
sure marg........

i think we picked up this bottle at costco, it's called 'equate' and it's just regular people grade glucosamine sulfate in 500mg capsules. it is sodium free, and i believe the non-medicinal ingredients just make up the shell of the capsule, so we're not feeding the dogs a bunch of hooey (that's why i pull the capsule apart and just use the glucosamine). our first dog is about 95lbs, and our old vet said we could give her up to 1000mg a day. we give our lighter dog just one. it really is remarkable the difference it can make for achey older dogs - dali's had no problems with it but it's probably worth running by your vet.
er, marg, are you eating the dog food? smileys/wink.gif

 
Yay! I'm sure Gomez

was overjoyed as you were to have him back at home.

BTW, we've added a new pup. Loki, another standard wire-haired dachshund. We now have a matched set and they are so cute and adorabel I cannot stand it sometimes. I'll get some pix soon.

 
Cathy convinced me to start cooking for my pups as well.

I have modified her recipe and this is what I'm feeding my Dachshunds:

> Chicken
> Ground beef or lamb (varies)
> Carrots
> Cod
> Sweet Potato
> Barley
> Whole oats
> Green Beans
> Zucchini
> Golden Delicious Apple
> Potatoes
> Blueberries
> Wheat Germ
> Olive Oil
> Flax Seed
> Garlic

This is all cooked up together. I also stir in alfalfa sprouts, shredded Nori, and cottage cheese into their food. A sprinkle of Brewer's Yeast with garlic couple times a week (very good for flea repelling, BTW). They also get a daily PetTab vitamin, and an egg in their breakfast a couple times/week.

My dogs go nuts when I pull the container out of the fridge. They love this stuff. They never did that on kibble. And the, ahem, poops, are nice and compact and not messy. A big concern in switching canine diets.

 
More info, suggested reading...

For those of you concerned about pet food, here are some books that you may want to check out at your library:

By Ann Martin: "Food pets die for--shocking facts about pet food" and "Protect your pet".

By JP McNamara: "Principles of companion animal nutrition" Covers what pet nutritional needs are and how to put together nutritional meals to meet those needs.

For those that are feeding commercial food and worried, you should be. The average commercial foods, including the supposed "premium" brands that spend millions marketing themselves as pet friendly, were unmasked in this pet food recall. Some of them started out with good product, but greed took over (like the brand that starts with the big "E" and now markets a trash bag of dog food). There are natural pet food companies out there that have not been involved in these recalls and that are selling human-grade pet foods. They cost more. There is a reason.

I still use Innova kibble to supplement what I cook for my dogs (mainly for the crunchy teeth-cleaning that the kibble provides). http://www.naturapet.com/ Go to their Web site and read the ingredients.

I was at the pet store hefting the bag of Innova in the cart when another shopper actually quizzed my wisdom of buying such an expensive dog food when "they're all the same". She had the big "P" brand in her cart with the pretty pictures of peas and carrots on the bag.

I rolled my cart up to hers, pointed to the ingredients and asked her to read: chicken, rice, sweet potatoes, cottage cheese, turkey, etc. Then I asked her to look at her brand's ingredients. Corn, corn gluten, (dog's can't digest corn, it's a cheap filler that creates big stinking messy poops), chicken by products (marketing euphenism for: "the slop wastes from the chicken slaughter house" we're talking beaks, eyes, feet, guts, and excrement here), etc. She was stunned to discover they are not all the same, pretty pictures of peas and carrots not withstanding. Then I pointed out that my "expensive" brand came out to about $.50/day for my dog.

She actually put the bag back and bought the Innova.

Innova isn't the only natural food out there, it's just the one that I particularly liked. Search and find out what they're putting in the food. Dr. Weil the famous nutritionist makes some recommendations on his Web site of what he feeds his dogs. Merrick is another good brand (I watched one of the Merrick sales reps eat their dog food--how many big P or E reps would do that???).

And the big companies caught in this scandal are going to be spending bezillions of dollars in the coming months on propaganda to tell you how wonderful they are. They are concerned about protecting profits, not your cute little pooch as they'll say in their commercials, as human actors will snuggle actor dogs and smile happily as they watch the actor dogs eating out of a dog dish--which usually contain raw meat to get the proper gusto while filming for pet food commercials--not the product they're selling.

And as I always say: Caveat emptor y'all.

 
thanks, I'll check out some of these for my kitties. FYI - Natural Balance is on recall....

Natural Balance Venison & Brown Rice – Dry Formula for Dogs

Also recalled
Natural Balance Venison and Green Pea Dry Formula for Cats

Anything by Natural Balance with the Venison formula to include cans, rolls and treats

 
That is too funny! I think his legs are a little too short...

As it is, he is so furry, and his double coat traps so much air that his bum floats out of the water, which causes his little tail to look like a little rudder...

Certainly not a water dog by nature, but definitely by choice!

 
Oh, boy, do I have happy girls!!!

Cathy, your help has been terrific. I modified your recipe a bit (cruciferous veggies and Dee do not agree) then did a bit more research to find out the actual calorie requirements for a dane and we are off an running. I'm keeping a diary to start for my notes and any changes just in case something doesn't agree with them.

DH swears he saw sparks flying the first couple of meal times smileys/smile.gif I have already noticed Dee (she's the older harlequin) is perkier and she is fast to come out to see what is going on. She had gotten into the habit of just barking from wherever she was until someone came to see her.

Richard, thanks for providing your list. I was wondering about adding fruits to the mixture, specifically blueberries, and you answered my question before I asked!

And here is a shot of the girls...

http://breadzone.net/girls.jpg

 
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