My Whole Foods offers many prepared options containing beans. Said beans are most always

I loved my Wild Oats market, but the prepared foods section was HORRIBLE. Whole Foods, which bought

Wild Oats, can only be an improvement.

I've eaten at the hot food/salad bar at another Whole Foods in Los Angeles and it was pretty decent--very bland as you say.

The problem, I think, is employees who don't care, or who aren't paid enough to care, and a lack of supervision. I'm sure most of the stuff gets put out without a single person tasting it along the way.

 
Dawn-I much appreciate WF's stand on quality, artificial anything, promoting local growers, etc. As

I stated earlier, we shop at WF weekly because we recognize the importance of obtaining the best products available at any price.

My interest in starting this discusion was mainly to get a read on whether the problems with food preparation I see in my market are problems throughout the WF system.

When I want junk (and I sometimes do) I sneak away to another mega-mart where, at least, we both know I'm buying crap--at a reasonable price.
BTW undercooked beans have their place--pea-shooters--not 6 dollar a pound cold salads.

 
Prepared food--As I look at displays of "prepared food", I can rarely get over the idea that...

,whatever they call it, it is LEFTOVERS. I can make my own leftovers, thank you.

 
I know Charlie...

I was just whining. I would be irritated also if I paid that much money for an undercooked legume salad too, but just to be able to buy it would make me happy at this point.
I never realized how good I had it in San Diego as far as foodie stuff goes. I assumed everyone had the variety and selection that we had there. So what did you do with the undercooked salad? Where you able to salvage it at all?

 
I was really shocked by that, but for the record, I wasn't doubting you. I'd like to know how you

would compare the roast to others you've prepared. I feel I just can't afford/justify their meat prices when I can get good meat elsewhere, but do spring for their ground pork, pork Italian sausages, sometimes ground beef(but it's dry), and the Bell and Evan's chicken livers and chicken pieces. That's been the extent of my meat purchases from their case.

I wonder if they're using Select because they want to present a lower fat product?

I can't help with the undercooked bean question, I've never bought anything from the prepared foods section.

 
I just came back to ask the same thing. I remember something controversial about it when

it was first introduced, but Dr. Andrew Weil says that the expeller pressed is okay, so I buy that, usually the Spectrum brand. I think that means it doesn't have any chemicals added during the extraction process. I also keep it in the refrigerator.

But then I use very little canola oil, olive oil is my first choice.

 
My friend actually prefers WF because they don't add salt. She thinks prepared foods is far

oversalted and she can eat WF without feeling over-salted.

Perhaps Whole Foods goes by the mantra that you can always add salt, but you can't take it away.

And I say "yes!" to that, but when I've just paid $14.99 a pound, I don't feel like doing anything to it.

 
I use olive oil....here is the info I have saved about canola oil...it's long

(Reprinted from Essential Oils Online)

Canola Oil is an Industrial Oil Not Fit For Human Consumption.

"It's amazing to me...The more research I do, the more I see a
relationship between the food we eat and fatal diseases. Canola oil is no
exception. Readers of EOO are familiar with the meat industry practice
of feeding rendered meat "byproducts" to cattle and poultry, and the
suspected relationship of Mad Cow Disease to CJD and Alzheimer's Disease.
Now comes information that Canola Oil is the suspected causative agent for
Scrapie, a viral disease transmitted to cattle who were fed rendered sheep
infected with Scrapie. Both Scrapie and Mad Cow Disease destroy the brain's
ability to function. They literally eat the brain away, causing blindness, loss
of mind and erratic behavior.

Canola oil's real name is "LEAR" oil (Low Erucic Acid Rape). It is more
commonly known as "rape oil," a semi-drying oil that is used as a lubricant,
fuel, soap and synthetic rubber base, and as an illuminant to give color
pages in magazines their slick look. In short it is an industrial oil that
does not belong in the human body. It is typically referred to in light
industry as a penetrating oil.

Back in the 1980's, rape oil was widely used in animal feeds in England
and throughout Europe. It was banned in 1991. Since then, Scrapie in
sheep has totally disappeared.

While that's good for Europeans, it is bad for Americans because the
problem is now ours. Rape seed oil (Canola oil) is widely used in
thousands of processed foods...with the blessings of our own government.

Canola oil was first developed in Canada. It's proponents claim that due
to genetic engineering and irradiation, it is no longer rape oil, but "canola"
(Canadian oil). They also claim it is completely safe, pointing to it's
unsaturated structure and digestibility. It is claimed the Canadian
government paid the FDA $50 million dollars to have canola oil placed on the
GRAS list (Generally Recognized As Safe). However it was done, a new
industry was created.

The truth is, however, that rape is the most toxic of all food oil plants.
Not even insects will eat it. No wonder farmers like growing it. It turns
out that rape is a member of the mustard family of plants, and is the source
for the chemical agent, mustard gas, which causes blistering on skin and
lungs when inhaled. Mustard Gas was banned after WWI for this very
reason.

Studies of canola oil done on rats indicate many problems. Rats developed
fatty degeneration of heart, kidney, adrenals and thyroid gland. When the
canola oil was withdrawn from their diet, the deposits dissolved, but scar
tissue remained on the organs. Why were no studies done on humans before
the FDA placed it on the GRAS list?

Consumed in food, Canola oil depresses the immune system, causing it to
"go to sleep." Canola oil is high in glycosides which cause health problems
by blocking enzyme function. It's effects are accumulative, taking years to
show up. One possible effect of long term use is the destruction of the
protective coating surrounding nerves called the myelin sheath. When this
protective sheath is gone, our nerves short-circuit causing erratic,
uncontrollable movements.

To test the industrial penetrating strength of canola oil, soak a towel in
both canola oil and regular vegetable oil. Pretreat and wash the towel in
your clothes washer and compare the area the two oils occupied...you
will notice an oil stain remains on the area soaked in canola oil. It is so
durable, it could take several washings to completely remove. Now if this
is how canola oil penetrates the fabric of a towel, what damage can it do in
our body?

Because canola oil is so cheap, it is now widely used in the food industry.
If you are curious, just read a few food labels the next time you are in the
grocery store. A good example can be found with commercially prepared
peanut butter. In order to give peanut butter it's spreadability, Jiffy, Peter
Pan and Skippy brands remove ALL of the natural peanut oil and replace it
with canola oil. Natural peanut butter should only have peanuts and salt listed
in the ingredients.

If you want to use natural peanut butter, it's available in most stores next
to the canola peanut butter. Stir the contents to mix the oil and peanuts
together then store in the refrigerator. The cold temperature will prevent
the peanut oil from separating. Best of all, you will have eliminated at
least one source of a potential food hazard.

Food consumers have headaches enough, without worrying about a toxic
plant oil being added to their food. The problem is you will find canola oil
in bread, margarines, and all manner of processed foods. But the consumer
is king. Be informed and make it a practice to read what goes into your food.

Avoid using canola as a cooking oil and salad oil. It is not a healthy oil."

Resources:

http://www.1999.com/canola/

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"Recently I bought Canola Oil. I tried it because the label assured me it was lowest in “bad” fats. However, when I had used half, I concluded that the label told me surprisingly little else and I started to wonder: where does canola oil come from? So, I did some investigating on the Internet. There are plenty of official Canola sites lauding this new “wonder” oil with all its low-fat health benefits. It takes a little longer to find sites that tell the less palatable details. Here are just a few facts everyone should know before buying anything containing canola.
Canola is not the name of a natural plant but a made-up word, from the words “Canada” and “oil”. Canola is a genetically engineered plant developed in Canada from the Rapeseed Plant, which is part of the mustard family of plants.
According to Agri-Alternatives, The Online Innovation, and Technology Magazine for Farmers, “By nature, these rapeseed oils, which have long been used to produce oils for industrial purposes, are...toxic to humans and other animals”. (This, from one of the websites singing the praises of the new canola industry.) Rapeseed oil is poisonous to living things and is an excellent insect repellent. I have been using it (in very diluted form, as per instructions) to kill the aphids on my roses for the last two years. It works very well; it suffocates them. Rapeseed oil is used as a lubricant, fuel, soap and synthetic, rubber base and as a illuminate for color pages in magazines. It is an industrial oil. It is not a food. Rapeseed oil, it seems, causes emphysema, respiratory distress, anemia, constipation, irritability, and blindness in animals and humans.
It was widely used in animal feeds in England and Europe between 1986 and 1991, when it was thrown out. Remember the “Mad Cow disease” scare, when millions of cattle in the UK were slaughtered in case of infecting humans? Cattle were being fed on a mixture containing material from dead sheep, and sheep suffer from a disease called “scrapie”. It was thought this was how “Mad Cow” began and started to infiltrate the human chain. What is interesting is that when rapeseed oil was removed from animal feed, ‘scrapie’ disappeared. We also haven’t seen any further reports of “Mad Cow” since rapeseed oil was removed from the feed. Perhaps not scientifically proven, but interesting all the same.
US and Canadian farmers grow genetically engineered rapeseed and manufacturers use its oil (canola) in thousands of processed foods, with the blessings of Canadian and US government watchdog agencies. The canola supporting websites say that canola is safe to use. They admit it was developed from the rapeseed, but insist that through genetic engineering it is no longer rapeseed, but “canola” instead. Except canola means “Canadian oil”; and the plant is still a rape plant, albeit genetically modified. The new name provides perfect cover for commercial interests wanting to make millions. Look at the ingredients list on labels. Apparently peanut oil is being replaced with rape oil. You’ll find it in an alarming number of processed foods. There’s more, but to conclude: rape oil was the source of the chemical warfare agent mustard gas, which was banned after blistering the lungs and skins of hundred of thousands of soldiers and civilians during W.W.I. Recent French reports indicate that it was used during the Gulf War. Check products for ingredients. If the label says, “may contain the following” and lists canola oil, you know it contains canola oil because it is the cheapest oil and the Canadian government subsidizes it to industries involved in food processing.
Studies with lab. animals were disastrous. Rats developed fatty degeneration of heart, kidney, adrenals, and thyroid gland. When canola oil was withdrawn from their diets, the deposits dissolved but scar tissue remained on all vital organs. No studies on humans were made before money was spent to promoteCanola oil in the USA. Adrenoleukodystrophy (ALD) is a rare fatal degenerative disease caused by a build up long-chain fatty acids(c22 to c28) which destroys the myelin (protective sheath) of the nerves. Canola oil is a very long chain fatty acid oil (c22). Those who defend canola oil say that the Chinese and Indians have used it for centuries with no effect, however it was in an unrefined form ( taken from FATS THAT HEAL AND FATS THAT KILL by Udo Erasmus) my cholesterol was 150. After a year using Canola oil I tested 260. I switched back to pure olive oil and it has taken 5 years to get it down to 160. Thus began this project to find answers since most Doctors will say that Canola oil is O.K.
A friend who worked for only 9 mo. as a quality control taster at an apple-chip factory where Canola oil was used exclusively for frying, developed numerous health problems, including loose teeth & gum disease; numb hands and feet; swollen arms and legs upon rising in the morning; extreme joint pain especially in hands, cloudy vision, constipation with stools like black marbles, hearing loss; skin tears from being bumped; lack of energy; hair loss and heart pains. It has been 5 years since she has worked there and still has some joint pain, gum disease, and numbness.
A fellow worker, about 30 years old, had a routine check up and found that his blood vessels were like those of an 80 year old man. 2 employees fed the waste product to baby calves and their hair fell out.
After removing the fried apple chips from the diet their hair grew back in.
Rape seed oil is a penetrating oil, to be used in light industry, not for human consumption. Even after the processing to reduce erucic acid content, it is still a penetrating oil. We have found that it turns rancid very fast.
Also it leaves a residual rancid odor on clothing. Rapeseed oil used for stir-frying in China found to emit cancer causing chemicals." (Rapeseed oil smoke causes lung cancer) Amal Kumar Maj. The Wall Street JournaL June 7, 1995, Compiled by Darleen Bradley.

Canola oil is in everything these days. Even if none of this were true, companies use it because it's cheap. To me, there's a reason why it's cheap.

 
As far as I know there isn't one. However, Michael/Tpa told me there's an outdoor market

downtown Oct. thru April, I think. I've not been there yet but it looks like a big affair.

 
I have a price correction--all items on the salad bar are $7.99/lb. Now how

can you justify that price when some of the items contain pricier ingredients like chicken, turkey, or salmon and others only have vegetables like beets, cucumbers, and onions.

 
I, like you, could only justify this because of the fat content. The roast was tender; maybe

not as juice as it could have been.

I mentioned the stamp only because I saw taken aback by it. I know that a "Prime Rib" doesn't mean that the meat is Prime, but you'd at least expect a choice cut for that price. A three rib roast was over $100.

I like the Italian turkey sausage, chickens (Bell & Evans), Neiman Ranch pork (ribs and Royal ham). They usually carry harder to find beef cuts like hanger steak or crosscut ribs (flanken). I'll buy ground meats there because they look so fresh---the ground beef with a bit more fat is usually packaged. I'll buy steak only if it is on sale. (t-bones or rib steak)

 
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