Question: have any of the recipes you've posted lately qualified for the T&T?

lots of old goodies in there that we all loved smileys/smile.gif wish I could remember who did it.

 
Ok Pat I'm designating one person (YOU) to PM me a message about this...

...so I don't forget.

 
Thoughts From A Newbie

I reckon that somebody who hasn't posted a whole lot (a thousand posts seems to be the "now you count as a real member" number) just automatically has nothing worthwhile to contribute to the Hall of Fame.

At least that's how I'm reading all this.

I was, until reading this thread, unaware that there were two classes of members: Elitists whose every thought was a pearl, just because they posted a lot of them, and all the rest of us, who don't count as much because we don't have time to resond to every post; or feel we have nothing to say on the subject, or merely are new.

What really amuses me is that there are several members here who abandoned Epi precisely because of "overposting" by one person in particular. But based on the quantity counts philosphy being expressed, she'd not only be welcome here, she'd be queen of the prom.

 
Yes you did, Curious.

But others, including some in positions of authority, have used that thousand posts thing as meaningful.

So what I'm wondering about is, if you need a thousand posts before your voice counts, does that mean they're encouraging blather? Or discouraging the rest of us from bothering to post at all?

As I've said before, this is one of the most cumbersome sites to navigate that I know of. Lord knows, after sixty-odd posts I still don't understand it fully. So maybe there's some sort of rule I missed about quantity counting over quality? If so, perhaps somebody can point it out to me.

 
KYH, I don't think the 1,000-post idea was meant to discourage new members at all..

Mimi was discussing a number of ways to handle the "T&T" forum, which sometimes gets misinterpreted. If you hang out here a while, and I hope you do, you'll know that Mimi would never mean to offend anyone.

New members are always welcomed here with open arms. If you post any questions on navigating the site, someone will surely help you out.

 
Thanks Joe. Yeah, KYH, I was just throwing out random ideas, nothing serious...

and nothing anyone should get upset about or read too much into. It was just an idea to make sure that only people who understood how the T&T was supposed to work (and how this community works in general) could post to the T&T, but 1000 was just a random number I picked as an example and wasn't meant to be taken as if I had suddenly set it in stone.

Sorry if you find the format cumbersome, KYH, it actually was set up to mimic the old forum as close as I could possibly get it with the technology and resources available to me. It purposely was set up to NOT be anything like the popular "phpBB" flat-view forum. That was the whole point of doing this. So, the format will not be changing as long as I have anything to say about it.

If you're having problems navigating or understanding how to perform certain tasks, go ahead and PM me with the specifics, I'll see what I can do to explain it.

Mimi

 
You're Kind Of Proving My Point, Mimi.

There is an unfortunate tendency at forums for the older members, people who have a history with each other, to act as if everyone in the community shares that history. I suppose it's only human to do so.

The problem is that this often leads to a stated or subliminal "us and them" situation. The old members are the elite, donchasee, just because they were smart enough to have joined X years ago.

"that only people who understood how the T&T was supposed to work (and how this community works in general) could post to the T&T....."

So, what you're saying is, if not a thousand than some other ridiculously high number is needed to understand how this community works?

I have been a member of numerous mail lists, forums, and on-line communities in several areas of interest. It's never taken me more than a few days of lurking to understand how the site and the community worked. Except this one.

If I have to post a thousand times, or 500, or even a hundred before I'm fit to belong, then that's elitist, whether you intend it so or not. Either that or its an admission that the site is set up in a way that's too confusing for reasonably intelligent people to grasp easily.

"it actually was set up to mimic the old forum as close as I could possibly get it with the technology and resources available to me."

You're presuming that everyone here even knows there was an old forum, let alone how it worked. So, again, there is that subconscious us & them attitude, with new members being the them.

>So, the format will not be changing as long as I have anything to say about it.<

I never asked you to change it. But if you think this site is not cumbersome and awkward to use I suggest you explore a few others. There isn't, for instance, another list I'm familiar with in which you have to scroll down the entire page everytime you want to return to where you were. Or where a serious exploration of the backpages is made ridiculously difficult and discouraging.

 
KY, This Forum Was Set Up *By Request* In This Format By The Original Users Of The Board.

It has nothing to do with being elitist, and everything to do with a group of people wishing to operate within a specific format.

 
I don't have to scroll down after reading a post. I get put back exactly where I started.

I think it's your server or internet provider that causes this.

 
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